Argument Atlas
Argument Atlas
The Christian Argument Apex
CAA is a philosophical argument website wiki dedicated to storing arguments towards defending Christianity and similar concepts that lead to Christianity.
Lukas Williams
About CAA
The Vision
I am passionate about fostering the start diverse intellectual reasoning that may not be typically found on mainstream philosophy, while some of my critiques and ideas may appeal to already explored arguments,
the aim is to expand onto these which include defending Christian theology, history, scripture, tradition etc. to attacking the incoherence found in contrary worldviews.
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Lukas' Cur Deus Homo Argument variation (Why God became Man, epistemological reasoning)
1. Divine transcendence alone cannot serve as a blanket justification for apparent contradictions when applied to actions involving creation. If a transcendental God interacts with creation in ways that seem logically inconsistent (e.g., forgiving sin while remaining just and merciful), and we appeal only to transcendence without explanation, we risk undermining any meaningful epistemological framework. If God’s actions can't be logically understood at some level, our capacity to discern or trust divine revelation would be compromised.Justice demands that consequences are upheld: sin deserves punishment.Mercy often requires mitigating consequences: forgiveness absolves guilt or punishment.These two seem to operate in opposition because perfect justice insists on payment for every wrong, while mercy overrides that payment. How, then, can God reconcile these without violating either attribute?In Christianity, the resolution comes through the doctrine of the atonement in Christ. Here’s how this works logically:Sin incurs a debt of justice (punishment).God, in His justice, does not ignore sin but demands its penalty.In mercy, God provides a substitute (Jesus) to bear the penalty on behalf of humanity.This allows God to be both just (sin is punished) and merciful (sinners are forgiven).
The Christian solution hinges on the idea that justice and mercy converge at the Cross, where Jesus voluntarily absorbs justice’s demands, allowing mercy to flow to sinners without injustice. Thus, God’s transcendence is not appealed to override logic; instead, divine actions within creation uphold both attributes.
In Islam, Allah is described as both Al-Adl (the Just) and Ar-Rahman (the Merciful). Islamic theology often emphasizes the sovereign will of Allah:
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Justice is exercised according to Allah’s perfect wisdom.
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Mercy is dispensed by His choice, not as a necessity.
However, this resolution raises the epistemological concern: if Allah’s justice and mercy depend solely on His will, how do we ensure these attributes are logically consistent when applied to creation? If mercy overrides justice arbitrarily, does this not risk making divine justice appear capricious? Without an explanatory framework like the Christian atonement, it’s challenging to ground both attributes simultaneously in a way that satisfies logical scrutiny.
For theology to be coherent, it must align with reason and provide a grounding for understanding God’s attributes and actions. If transcendence is used to bypass logical consistency in God’s interaction with creation, then epistemology—the study of how we know what we know—becomes unreliable. We would have no basis for trusting divine justice or mercy as intelligible concepts.
Christianity claims to resolve this through the Incarnation and Atonement, where transcendence enters creation to harmonize justice and mercy. Islam, however, relies on Allah’s will and sovereignty, which can appear less grounded epistemologically when judged by human logic.
Certain paradigms like these are consistently answered in Christianity but lack depth in other religions, Colossians 1:16-17.
The default formula consists of Premise 1: X is the necessary precondition for Y, Y therefore X, lets expand on this.
The premise asserts that X is the foundation or essential cause that enables Y to exist or function properly. To demonstrate this logically, we could say:
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If X (in this case, God) is the necessary precondition for Y (concepts like logic, morality, or knowledge), then Y cannot exist without X. This is because X provides the grounding or basis for Y to even be intelligible, reliable, or applicable in any meaningful way.
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For example, in terms of logic and morality, these abstract concepts rely on some foundational or absolute grounding to make sense. Without a grounding in something outside the human mind (such as God), there is no objective framework that would ensure that logic or morality is universally applicable or true. Without X, the concepts would simply collapse into subjective preferences or arbitrary conventions.
Premise 2: X is God, who can be the only specific and sufficient epistemic justification for grounding the existence of Y (which includes metaphysical assumptions of concepts like logic, morality, and past knowledge)
This premise argues that God is the specific and sufficient epistemic justification for the existence of essential metaphysical concepts. Here's how this works:
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God provides the necessary and sufficient foundation for concepts like logic, morality, knowledge, and past knowledge. These concepts depend on God’s nature and will to be universally valid and objective. If we remove God from the equation, we would be left with no objective or reliable justification for holding these concepts as universally true
Conclusion: While it doesn't make atheism contradictory, it makes the worldview impossible
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Atheism does not lead to a logical contradiction in the same way that a self-contradictory statement would. However, it becomes impossible because it lacks a foundation for grounding the epistemic justification of essential metaphysical concepts.
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Without God, all concepts such as knowledge, truth, and moral values become arbitrary or subjective. In a purely naturalistic or atheistic worldview, there is no objective grounding for why logic should apply universally, or why moral laws should be binding or consistent across time and space. These concepts would lose their universal authority, which undermines our ability to know anything reliably and truly.
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More specifically, justification for knowing or believing in something as true requires an epistemic authority, which, in a Christian worldview, is God. Without such authority, no knowledge could be epistemically reliable, because no justification for knowledge exists outside of God’s nature. Thus, atheism’s reliance on naturalism or purely human-based reasoning leaves knowledge and truth without any ultimate justification, making them epistemologically unstable and unreliable.
When considering atheism as a worldview, we must recognize that even the assertion "atheism is true" is itself a truth claim that relies on logic and epistemic justification. This presents a contradiction within atheism itself when it denies the reliability of logic or a universal grounding for truth
Agnosticism, much like atheism, encounters a fundamental dilemma when it comes to the issue of justification for knowledge and truth claims. While agnosticism is often framed as a position of scepticism about knowledge of the divine or ultimate truths, its reliance on scepticism about certainty and justification presents similar challenges to the ones faced by atheism. The problem lies in the fact that agnosticism—like atheism—is not simply a passive stance of not knowing; it is itself a worldview with implicit assumptions that need to be justified. The focus on belief versus worldview is crucial for understanding why agnosticism, despite its claim to avoid belief, faces the same epistemic problems regarding justification.
Agnosticism is often characterized by a sceptical approach to knowledge, particularly knowledge of God or ultimate reality. Agnostics may assert that certainty about metaphysical claims is unknowable, or that belief in God cannot be justified based on available evidence. However, this position, while often framed as a form of intellectual humility, still relies on certain assumptions about knowledge and truth. Specifically, it asserts that:
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Certain knowledge (particularly about the divine or ultimate reality) is beyond our grasp.
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Scepticism towards the justification of metaphysical claims is itself a form of "justified" belief.
In Other Words, while agnosticism might insist that its position is neutral and avoids making definitive belief claims, it still carries epistemological consequences. Here's the issue: agnosticism becomes self-defeating when it attempts to justify scepticism without an ultimate source of epistemic reliability.
If they rely on an epistemic justification through the grounding of God then they have no reason to be agnostic and should consider theism as more coherent and on the flip side if they rely on their epistemic justification through non-transcendental then the dilemma remains.
In the context of the Transcendental Argument for God (TAG), the argument posits that logic and epistemic justification are grounded in the existence of God. Unlike systems such as Platonism or axiomatic systems, which presuppose access to objective truths without justification, TAG avoids this issue by grounding epistemic access in the existence of a transcendent, logically consistent God. This ensures that the finite logic available to us is not grounded circularly in its own content or arbitrarily in ontological truths without accessible justification. TAG aligns logic with a conceptual and intellectual framework that coherently fits meta-level concepts like universal applicability and necessity.
It is important to clarify that this argument does not categorically confuse logic being presented through its content for practical or consistent use with the deeper issue of grounding the existence of logic itself. Logic’s presentation through its own principles in specific instances is acceptable and necessary for its functional application. However, when addressing the existence of logic as a universal concept, grounding it in its own content becomes circular, as it depends on logic to validate its own foundations.
Even if both sides of the discussion regarding worldviews of epistemology—whether belief in God or not—are equally presumed to be true, the side that justifies logic through the existence of God avoids falling into the problem of circularity or arbitrariness. On the other hand, the opposing side, whether naturalistic or Platonist, struggles to ground logic without relying on either circular justification or unjustified assumptions. If logic is presented as self-evident, grounded in empirical evidence, or merely posited as ontologically true without a system of access, it becomes either circular (justifying logic through its content) or arbitrary (relying on ungrounded truths). The preconditions for finite logic, in this case, fail to point to a fundamental intellectual system for existence that fits meta-level conceptual realities.
By failing to explain the why behind its principles, this approach reduces logic to an unexamined assumption or arbitrary convention. A proper foundation must recognize the need to ground logic in something that both explains its validity and aligns with its universal applicability. Only by rooting logic in a transcendent source, such as God, can its justification avoid being arbitrary or circular, providing a coherent explanation for its consistent and binding nature.
The Quran affirms the authenticity of the previous scriptures, particularly in Surah 5:43-48, and commands Jews and Christians to judge by their books. It also references Surah 2:285 to emphasize that the previous revelations were "books", not just events or promises, meaning they were to remain intact. These scriptures were preserved in physical manuscripts, some of which, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls and other early biblical manuscripts, predate the Quran’s revelation. These historical documents provide evidence that the Bible, as referenced by the Quran, was indeed a preserved text at the time, further supporting the Quran’s stance that the scriptures were authentic.
However, if one argues that the Bible was corrupted, the Quran would fall into a logical contradiction. It commands Jews and Christians to judge by their books, which implies their authenticity, yet also suggests that these books were corrupted. Such a contradiction would make it impossible for the Quran to rely on the Bible to confirm its own message. The Quran cannot validate itself through a corrupted scripture without falling into circular reasoning.
Some may cite Surah 2:75-79 to argue that the corruption referred to is not of the actual text but of the actions of individuals who misinterpreted or misused the scriptures. This view does not imply the Bible itself was corrupted but rather addresses the actions of people misrepresenting it. Even if one accepts this argument, the Quran still affirms the overall authenticity of the Bible, as evidenced by the commands in Surah 5:47 for Jews and Christians to refer to their books for judgment.
To further illustrate the Quran’s internal consistency, if it were to claim the Bible was corrupted, it would create an internal paradox. The Quran would be using a corrupted text to confirm its legitimacy, which undermines its own truth claims. Therefore, the Quran avoids the logical inconsistency of relying on a corrupted scripture and maintains that the Bible remains authoritative.
Thus, the Quran’s affirmation of the Bible in verses such as 5:43-48 and 2:285, while not suggesting corruption, implies that the Bible was preserved and authoritative at the time of revelation. The presence of early manuscripts, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, supports the claim that the scriptures referenced by the Quran were authentic and intact. The Quran does not fall into circular reasoning or contradiction by asserting that the previous scriptures are still valid and should be used to confirm the Quran's message.
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argument does not critique the concept of analogical predication, which posits that divine attributes such as justice and mercy are analogous to human traits but infinitely greater in magnitude. Rather, it focuses on the epistemic problem arising from functional incompatibility. The issue lies not in the value or magnitude of these attributes compared to human traits but in their simultaneous operation within a theological framework that renders their functional coherence questionable. Analogical predication may establish a transcendent distinction between divine and human attributes, but it does not address how justice and mercy can functionally coexist without violating the inherent nature of justice when their application appears logically contradictory. This epistemic issue arises because the simultaneous exercise of justice and mercy, as described in certain theological contexts, undermines the fundamental operation of justice itself, making their reconciliation unintelligible and epistemically unjustified.
Repentance, while significant in addressing the moral and relational aspects of sin, cannot constitute the prime resolution of justice because it lacks the ontological and juridical sufficiency to satisfy the demands of justice. Justice, as a principle, necessitates the rectification of wrongdoing in a manner proportionate to the transgression, ensuring that the moral order is upheld. Repentance, being an internal disposition or acknowledgment of guilt, addresses the subjective state of the wrongdoer but does not rectify the objective consequences of sin or satisfy the intrinsic demands of justice.
Christian theology addresses this epistemic dilemma through incarnational reconciliation, which preserves the functional integrity of both justice and mercy. This model does not merely seek logical coherence but demonstrates the simultaneous operation of justice and mercy in a manner consistent with human epistemology. Through the incarnation and atonement, divine justice is fully satisfied in Christ’s bearing of sin’s penalty, while mercy is extended without compromising the functional operation of justice. This framework aligns with our fundamental understanding of these attributes and avoids breaking their epistemic accessibility. By grounding the manifestation of justice and mercy in the historical reality of the incarnation, Christian theology transcends finite human limitations while maintaining the intelligibility and epistemic coherence of divine attributes. This approach ensures that justice and mercy do not merely reflect their human analogues but operate within a framework that upholds their functional harmony without appealing to mystery or selective resolution.
In discussions of worldviews, particularly atheistic frameworks, the attempt to mitigate contradictions through the surface-level rejection of logic, ethics, or knowledge does not constitute a genuine resolution.
This method merely evades the issue rather than addressing it at its foundational level, as the underlying presuppositions remain inescapably operative even when denied. Such a surface-level rejection, while appearing pragmatically viable, exposes an epistemic incoherence that undermines the entire worldview.
This illusionary resolution arises an issue because these foundational concepts like logic, ethics, and knowledge are not neutral tools that can simply be discarded when inconvenient. They are transcendental preconditions for intelligibility itself.
Continuing off the impossibility of the contrary which would be the denial of incarnational reconciliation,
The epistemic dilemma within the Jewish framework, as it relates to the unresolved tension between divine justice and mercy, demonstrates a fundamental inconsistency that undermines the coherence of truth claims about God. If God’s justice and mercy are ontologically contradictory—that is, if they are treated as equally true but irreconcilable—this creates an epistemic instability. In epistemology, consistency is a necessary condition for coherent knowledge claims. The tension between divine justice and mercy would result in inconsistent knowledge about God’s nature, as contradictions cannot be simultaneously true without collapsing the very intelligibility of those claims. The Jewish paradigm, which maintains these contradictions without a means of reconciliation, therefore suffers from a logical incoherence that makes epistemic access to divine attributes unreliable and self-contradictory.
This epistemic unreliability leads to a more profound problem: it is not simply that the Jewish paradigm struggles to reconcile these attributes in a logical sense, but that it fails to do so in a way that can be meaningfully known. Epistemic access to knowledge about God requires not only abstract definitions but an ontological grounding of those definitions in a way that is both intelligible and consistent. Here, the concept of manifestation plays a crucial role. The incarnational epistemology of Christianity offers a unique solution to this dilemma. The incarnation of Christ is not merely a preferable theological concept, but the ontologically necessary resolution to the tension between justice and mercy. In Christianity, the manifestation of divine attributes in the person of Christ allows for an intelligible reconciliation of these seemingly contradictory traits. Christ does not just embody abstract notions of justice and mercy but demonstrates them in a coherent, embodied manner, which human epistemology can comprehend.
In contrast, the Jewish system, which does not possess a similar ontological manifestation of these attributes in a person, is left with abstract concepts that lack concrete intelligibility. The tension between justice and mercy remains unresolved because the Jewish framework does not provide a personal, embodied revelation through which these attributes can be comprehended and accessed reliably. In other words, while abstract reasoning might offer a philosophical understanding of justice and mercy, it fails to provide the epistemic clarity that comes from manifestation in a person. The incarnation provides a model of intelligibility, where divine attributes are not just theoretical or conceptual but lived and demonstrated in the person of Christ, allowing humanity to access and understand the true nature of God’s justice and mercy.
The epistemic dilemma within the Jewish paradigm arises from the unresolved tension between divine justice and mercy, which leads to epistemic instability. If these attributes are treated as contradictory without reconciliation, inconsistent knowledge claims about God emerge, as contradictions undermine intelligibility. This makes access to God’s nature unreliable. The incarnation in Christianity resolves this tension by manifesting both justice and mercy in the person of Christ, making divine attributes intelligible and coherent. While abstract reasoning in Judaism may hold both attributes as true, without embodiment, these attributes lack the epistemic clarity provided by a personal, embodied revelation. Therefore, the ontological necessity of the incarnation is not only theological but epistemic, as it provides reliable access to the truth of God's nature, which the Jewish system lacks due to unresolved contradictions.
Romans 7:1-4 encapsulates an ontological shift, where the believer’s relationship with the law is likened to a spousal dissolution. Through Christ’s death, believers are liberated from the legalistic covenant, entering into a new epistemic relationship where divine attributes are both immanently accessible and embodied. This shift is not a theological preference but an ontological necessity, resolving the epistemic incoherence of the Old Covenant, where divine justice and mercy, though essential, cannot be ontologically reconciled within a legal framework.
For Messianic Jews, this shift does not annul the Torah but fulfills its ultimate purpose. The Mosaic Law, while retaining structural significance, finds its fulfillment in Christ, who embodies the law’s true intention. Romans 7:1-4 confirms that believers, freed from legalistic burden, are united with Christ in a new epistemic covenant, where divine attributes are not merely abstract concepts but are realized immanently in Christ.
Chisholm’s Problem of the Criterion unveils an epistemological quandary: the circular interdependence of self-evident criteria and the methods for discerning them, leading to either infinite regress or arbitrary foundationalism. This crisis precipitates epistemic collapse as no coherent justification for knowledge claims can emerge absent a criterion grounded in ontological actuality. Competing paradigms such as atheistic materialism or abstract metaphysical systems like the CTMU fail to escape this collapse. Materialism rooted in contingency renders all epistemic criteria arbitrary and detached from necessity while the CTMU’s impersonal abstract God precludes finite beings from aligning their epistemology with ultimate reality leaving human cognition adrift in subjectivity. The Christian God uniquely resolves this dilemma by anchoring epistemology in divine revelation which functions as both an epistemic criterion and a metaphysical foundation. As the necessary being God’s self-revelation provides ontological reinforcement ensuring that self-evident truths correspond to reality. Through Christ the incarnate Logos and the Holy Spirit humans achieve epistemic alignment with divine knowledge bridging the gap between finite cognition and infinite truth. Without such revelatory reinforcement epistemology collapses into skepticism or relativism; only the Christian God sustains a coherent framework wherein epistemic certainty and metaphysical necessity converge.
Pantheism, in its ontological monism, posits an identity relation between God and the cosmos, thereby collapsing the dualistic distinction traditionally maintained between the divine and creation. While this metaphysical reductionism ostensibly circumvents the dialectical tension inherent in dualist paradigms, it precipitates a profound epistemological impasse. By conflating the transcendent with the immanent, pantheism obliterates the possibility of an independent epistemic criterion by which truth, falsity, or validity might be adjudicated. This epistemic indistinction, wherein the subject-object dichotomy dissolves, renders all putative knowledge claims coextensive with divinity itself and results in a relativistic epistemology devoid of any regulative principle external to the immanent whole.
The deficiency of pantheism becomes particularly acute when analysed through the lens of Chisholm’s “Problem of the Criterion,” which interrogates the justificatory priority of epistemic methods versus specific knowledge claims. Pantheism, in failing to posit a transcendent referent to adjudicate epistemic norms, becomes ensnared in an infinite regress of justificatory appeals or, alternatively, succumbs to vicious circularity. Its commitment to divine immanence necessitates that any criterion for knowledge is subsumed within the very reality it seeks to explicate and thereby nullifies the possibility of an objective epistemic grounding. Consequently, the pantheistic framework collapses into epistemological arbitrariness, undermining its capacity to differentiate between competing truth claims or establish normative epistemic authority.
Furthermore, pantheism's epistemological shortcomings are compounded by its ontological commitments. The identification of the divine with mutable, contingent reality entails that the supposed "divine" is subject to flux and finitude, eroding the metaphysical absolutes traditionally ascribed to divinity. Without a transcendent ontological ground, the pantheistic conception of divinity fails to account for the invariant and universal preconditions of logic, morality, and epistemic coherence. This absence of a transcendental anchor leaves pantheism vulnerable to relativism and incoherence since it cannot justify the universality of logical laws or moral imperatives within its framework of undifferentiated immanence.
In contrast, theistic dualism as epitomized in monotheistic traditions resolves these epistemological and metaphysical dilemmas by positing a transcendent, immutable God who serves as the necessary ground of all intelligibility. By preserving the creator-creation distinction, theistic dualism provides a coherent framework in which divine revelation mediates epistemic access to ultimate reality. The transcendental argument elucidates that the preconditions for intelligibility, such as the universality of logic and the normativity of morality, necessitate a transcendent source that pantheism, constrained by its immanentism, cannot accommodate. Thus, pantheism, in its metaphysical reductionism and epistemological inadequacy, fails to substantiate a coherent account of truth, knowledge, or ultimate reality. It thereby forfeits the explanatory and justificatory resources requisite for addressing the most fundamental questions of existence.
An ostensible paradigm, whether it involves formal logical systems, inductive reasoning, or linguistic structures, does not inherently preclude the possibility of circumvention, as it remains contingent upon foundational assumptions. These assumptions precede and inform the paradigms themselves, yet do not necessarily correspond to an objective or mind-independent reality. Consequently, the criteria established within such paradigms are derived from underlying commitments that are contingent upon human cognition, social constructs, and linguistic conventions, rather than being self-justifying or universally applicable.
Inductive reasoning exemplifies this point, as it generates conclusions based on observed patterns but lacks the internal justification to guarantee the truth of its extrapolations. The assumption that the future will resemble the past, a cornerstone of inductive inference, is not logically necessitated by past observations and cannot be verified through the very reasoning it relies upon. This lack of self-validation reveals that inductive reasoning, while pragmatic, does not possess inherent grounding in objective reality.
This critique extends to formal systems like analytical logic or linguistics, where validity is not determined by an external correspondence to truth, but by their function within particular social or intellectual contexts. Wittgenstein’s later philosophy suggests that logical propositions are validated not through their reflection of an objective reality but through their utility and coherence within specific language-games. These systems are only as valid as the frameworks within which they operate, and thus their truth is contingent on their contextual usage rather than an inherent universal applicability.
Moreover, the reliance on inductive reasoning, as a mode of immanent navigation of the world, does not substantiate the existence of a mind-independent reality. While induction serves as a heuristic for making practical decisions, it cannot verify that the world exists apart from human perception. Hume’s scepticism regarding induction underscores this limitation: while it may be a useful tool for prediction, it does not offer metaphysical confirmation of an external, mind-independent world. Therefore, inductive reasoning and similar logical systems are useful yet fallible tools that do not inherently bridge the gap between human cognition and objective reality.